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Biscuit · Post by **Biscuit** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:03 pm

Sweats????? as you say taking sweets..............

Merlin · Post by **Merlin** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:18 pm

deshollier · Post by **deshollier** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:35 pm

Hi Don,
Great site! Interested to read about your Father's part in the War. My brother in law was with the British Pacific Fleet (Yes, there was one!) on the Formidable, they were hit twice by Kamikazi's but due to the fact that British carriers had metal decks they were only out of commission a few hours. Of course the British sailors war was a bit longer than that of the US Navy. In his case he was at Hongkong in 1939, came back for Norway and the Tirpitz, hunted raiders in the South Atlantic, took a few pictures of the scuttled Graf Spey, escorted a couple of Malta convoys, chased the Bismark, after the Pacific duties ended up ferrying POW's from Singapore to Sydney and back to the UK in 1946.
I have found the way to (C)amarillo!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI5y1cNpbYo

wilko · Post by **wilko** » Tue May 06, 2008 1:00 am

Hi Don, if you're impatient to hear a Griffon there's plenty on youtube. Either in Aeroplanes or current running ones mounted in frames.Just dial in "merlin" or "griffon".I'm a warbird nut too!! Douglas

Don Madden · Post by **Don Madden** » Tue May 06, 2008 4:07 am

Early in our part in WWII Dad was sent on a secret mission in the, (then), British West Indies. Ushered into a conference room, he was introduced to Lord Mountbatten. The Lord asked: "Can you teach our people to operate a carrier as the Americans do?" He said: "No" & the meeting & project were over.

He later explained that he trained his crews to act independently, doing whatever was needed without orders. He felt the highly disiplined British forces were taught to look to their superiors for direction, which he felt took too long with the rapidly changing conditions on a carrier in combat.

The British carriers were superior in having an armored flight deck & the uptilting forward end of the deck. The US Navy thought the armor made the ship too top heavy & the uptilt obstructed the pilots view forward.

I can only report these differences, not judge them.

Cheers, Don.

itma · Post by **itma** » Tue May 06, 2008 1:55 pm

"He felt the highly disiplined British forces were taught to look to their superiors for direction"

absolutely, this is where you colonial chappies go wrong'
all our lower ranks have been properly subjugated and rely on instructions from the upper classes who will of course have been to public schools, and were born to rule.
I mean if these oiks had thought for themselves we would not have had our glorious battles such as the Somme etc

deshollier · Post by **deshollier** » Tue May 06, 2008 3:27 pm

Don, no judgement intended! After all they might have been British carriers but they were mostly US planes. The Formidable had Corsairs and (not too sure) Avengers. The good old USA had a unique way of collecting the surviving aircraft from the lease lend programme at the end of the War. A full inventory of aircraft and parts were checked - before the aircraft was pushed over the side into deep water! Recycling was a thing of the future in those days!

poplargreg · Post by **poplargreg** » Tue May 06, 2008 3:39 pm

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The good old USA had a unique way of collecting the surviving aircraft from the lease lend programme at the end of the War. A full inventory of aircraft and parts were checked - before the aircraft was pushed over the side into deep water! Recycling was a thing of the future in those days!

As a slight diversion - we were not averse to this sort of thing. There used to be a large munitions factory near here. During the war an inventory showed a steam locomotive was on site which couldn't be accounted for. A short track was constructed and it was dumped in a deep pond. This has been verified and a preservation society is negotiating for permission to excavate.