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Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:56 pm
by Group Leader
SPRIDDLER wrote:I'm not into correct or pretty, just practical.
........ so I've routed the cable outside everything with a small bracket on the acorn nut at the rocker inspection cover and which holds it away from the hot cyl head. The h/bar lever action is as light as a feather.
Me too. That's how it was when I got the bike.

I thought I'd try and route it "correctly". The result? Absolutely dreadful!

So it was returned to the Spriddler position which works beautifully although I've still got to get round to making that bracket!

Alan

Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:40 pm
by Peter Morris
cfaber wrote:Hi Folks,

First I have to say, I'm very excited to finally own a proper English motorcycle.
I've always wondered why our bikes have to be called 'British', were there any bikes that were made in Wales, Scotland, N.I.?

Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:48 pm
by cfaber
Peter Morris wrote:
cfaber wrote:Hi Folks,

First I have to say, I'm very excited to finally own a proper English motorcycle.
I've always wondered why our bikes have to be called 'British', were there any bikes that were made in Wales, Scotland, N.I.?
I was always taught that there was British (all of the UK) or English (the (omitted) folks that live in London area :lol:)

Have I been told incorrectly?

Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:13 pm
by Peter Morris
cfaber wrote:
I was always taught that there was British (all of the UK) or English (the (omitted) folks that live in London area :lol:)
Errr...... never heard that before, but I'm originally from the London area so......... :?

Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:50 pm
by Pharisee
cfaber wrote:
Peter Morris wrote:
cfaber wrote:Hi Folks,

First I have to say, I'm very excited to finally own a proper English motorcycle.
I've always wondered why our bikes have to be called 'British', were there any bikes that were made in Wales, Scotland, N.I.?
I was always taught that there was British (all of the UK) or English (the (omitted) folks that live in London area :lol:)

Have I been told incorrectly?
The way I've always assumed it worked (and as always, I'm probably wrong and stand to be corrected) is :-
A UK citizen is someone who was born in the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"
A British citizen is someone born in Great Britain... i.e. as a UK citizen but excluding those born in Northern Ireland. (The island of Great Britain does not include any part of the island of Ireland)
An English citizen is someone born in England... i.e. as a British citizen but excluding those born in Scotland or Wales.

Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:39 pm
by spookefoote1956
Peter Morris wrote:
cfaber wrote:Hi Folks,

First I have to say, I'm very excited to finally own a proper English motorcycle.
I've always wondered why our bikes have to be called 'British', were there any bikes that were made in Wales, Scotland, N.I.?
H J Hulsman (Wales)
Victoria Motorcycles (Scotland)
Fagan (Dublin, yes I know it's not UK)

Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:54 am
by Dixter
One day, it all became very clear... I was born in Bermuda in the 40s of American parents, grew up in Panama, and was a naturalized US citizen. I never really thought about the difference between British and English. I was about 17, and my mother, a social butterfly, dragged me to a garden party with folks from many nations.

My mother was engaged in conversation with a woman who was transiting the Canal, her home in London. My mother wraps a loving arm around me and says, “Richard was born in Bermuda. He can claim dual citizenship, US and English”. The lady from Kensington, sniffed... “Oh, no my dear! He might be British, he is most assuredly not English!”

Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:13 am
by SPRIDDLER
It niggles me to identify myself on documents with the catch-all term 'British' rather than English.
Goodness knows what we'd get if the PC brigade made cafes serve a 'Full British'.

Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:24 am
by spookefoote1956
When I lived in South London I remember filling out some form or other regarding ethnicity, which being an old hippie I found irrelevant. Fortunately there was a section marked "other - please state". So I wrote Viking Lancastrian Motorcyclist. At this moment in history I'm not totally enthralled with my nationality.

Re: 1954 18S preservation project (with lots of pictures)

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:11 pm
by cfaber
spookefoote1956 wrote:When I lived in South London I remember filling out some form or other regarding ethnicity, which being an old hippie I found irrelevant. Fortunately there was a section marked "other - please state". So I wrote Viking Lancastrian Motorcyclist. At this moment in history I'm not totally enthralled with my nationality.
I feel the same way =)