Broken Primary Chain

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Re: Broken Primary Chain

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Sprid

What they do mention is worrying enough.

I've usually used Avon but when I had the TR6P I used Dunlop K70's and they were really good. When I looked at using them again many years later I was told that they were nothing like the originals and were from distance parts of the world.

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Re: Broken Primary Chain

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I know what you mean ajscomboman, but it just means more expense and more time not riding the bike while I wait for parts.
Are the chains with split links that bad? It seems a big hassle to take everything apart.
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Re: Broken Primary Chain

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It's a small fine pitch single row chain which has to handle a reasonable amount of power and transmission backlash. Personally I'd put up with the hassle of time and parts rather than have a link break or come undone and do untold damage to other components. That's the reason why they were made endless in the first place. If it were a duplex with a split link then maybe not so much of an issue (although I'd still use the endless type).
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boyd wrote:It seems a big hassle to take everything apart.
Even bigger hassle to rebuild the drive side when the flapping broken chain destroys everything in its path.
Properly adjusted and lubricated, the endless primary chain will serve you well for years.
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Re: Broken Primary Chain

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Hi 1608
As an owner of my 1952 16MS for 40 years, I found the easiest way to reconnect any chain, is to use circlip pliers, the pointed ends angled slightly inwards are perfect for squeezing the opening together then slipping the connecting link in from the back.
Hope this helps someone.
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Boyd,
You have received information and advice from very knowledgeable and experienced members who have given you 'best advice'.
Whether to accept that advice or not is your choice.
Go raibh maith agat !
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Re: Broken Primary Chain

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boyd wrote: I can see one link is different but its not a split link like I've seen before....
That will probably be the link where the chain was joined by the manufacturer. Instead of holding it together with a clip, the ends are peened over like a rivet so they can't be pulled back through.
Malleon wrote:Boyd,
You have received information and advice from very knowledgeable and experienced members
And me. :rofl:
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Re: Broken Primary Chain

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Aye, lass, 'specially thee! Sin' tha's 'ad more tudoo wi' lightweights than t'rest on us!
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Re: Broken Primary Chain

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Malleon wrote:Aye, lass, 'specially thee! Sin' tha's 'ad more tudoo wi' lightweights than t'rest on us!
Gosh, no, I'm not the expert here. I just test them to destruction. :oops:
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Re: Broken Primary Chain

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I hesitate but.....

If a split link is good enough for a rear chain, with greater force acting on it and thrashing about in the wet and grit-soaked atmosphere, why is it not good enough for a primary, living as it does a cossetted life in a nice warm and protected oilbath?

I accept that the results of a primary breakage may be worse than that of a rear, but the last broken chain I suffered was on a knackered Norton 16H combination about 35 years ago. I replaced it to my (then) satisfaction by cobbling together bits of lawnmower drive chain (working for the council mending the things at the time) and it continued in use for some time.

BTW the easiest way to fit a split link is to get the 2 ends on the clutch sprocket then insert the old split link from the front. Turn the engine till this is between the sprockets and you can use the new one to push this out from the back.
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