Matchless G3L 1941
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Matchless G3L 1941
Hi people,
I've recently sold on a 1941 Matchless G3L i'm just looking for more information on this bike as i'm not too familiar i've only spent a brief while looking into it, seems like an interesting machine. The original green paint from when it was built can be seen through the black paint and all the bits on it look pretty original. Just thought you guys might want a look. Been garaged untouched for the last 30 years.
Cheers!
I've recently sold on a 1941 Matchless G3L i'm just looking for more information on this bike as i'm not too familiar i've only spent a brief while looking into it, seems like an interesting machine. The original green paint from when it was built can be seen through the black paint and all the bits on it look pretty original. Just thought you guys might want a look. Been garaged untouched for the last 30 years.
Cheers!
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Re: Matchless G3L 1941
Welcome, Calum.
I'm no authority and there are other club members better informed but in short I understand that the engines on all WD contract bikes were stamped '41' for 1941 regardless of actual manufacturing/supply date. The 'B' added to the engine number is a military/MOD feature and is believed to denote that the bike had Bowden air and ignition timing levers fitted on the h/bars.
There's more history and tech info about them here:
http://www.matchlesswd.co.uk/the-g3-wo- ... f-history/
Thousands of surplus bikes (Army, Naval, Fire Service) were auctioned after the war, roughly repainted black for the civvy market. Here are just a few...….
I'm no authority and there are other club members better informed but in short I understand that the engines on all WD contract bikes were stamped '41' for 1941 regardless of actual manufacturing/supply date. The 'B' added to the engine number is a military/MOD feature and is believed to denote that the bike had Bowden air and ignition timing levers fitted on the h/bars.
There's more history and tech info about them here:
http://www.matchlesswd.co.uk/the-g3-wo- ... f-history/
Thousands of surplus bikes (Army, Naval, Fire Service) were auctioned after the war, roughly repainted black for the civvy market. Here are just a few...….
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Re: Matchless G3L 1941
Not just after the war I am pretty sure some were auctioned off in large batches in the early 1980s
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Re: Matchless G3L 1941
I had this item on my watch list on ebay but it vanished , shame I was going to have a bid on it.
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Re: Matchless G3L 1941
I think you will find, B would have been stamped by AMC if Bowden levers were used instead of Amal. Stamping a letter which refered to a non std. part fitted was done 1930's onwards. You may come accross quite a few WD and early post war 40's bikes with a R. believed to mean Roller engine bearings.
The engine number is from WD contract number C 1050. Use the C 1050 parts list for this engine ( The complete bike when it was all original, which it ay not be now )
Contract No. C 1050 was for 9000 bikes, delivery to commence October 1st 1942. Note the engine prefix is 41. All WD G3/L engines were prefixed 1941. The frame number will also prove which contract it came from. So it would be a bonus if the frame an engine has stayed together during war time and ever since.
The engine number is from WD contract number C 1050. Use the C 1050 parts list for this engine ( The complete bike when it was all original, which it ay not be now )
Contract No. C 1050 was for 9000 bikes, delivery to commence October 1st 1942. Note the engine prefix is 41. All WD G3/L engines were prefixed 1941. The frame number will also prove which contract it came from. So it would be a bonus if the frame an engine has stayed together during war time and ever since.
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Re: Matchless G3L 1941
Re the B stamping, F W Neill states in Matchless Motorcycles chapter VI page 106 " Engines with B included in the engine number indicate a plain bush, the latest type".
Makes more sense than Bowden cables.
Thanks to Barry Robinson (Hampshire) for the info.
Makes more sense than Bowden cables.
Thanks to Barry Robinson (Hampshire) for the info.
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Re: Matchless G3L 1941
Frame number was: 57252
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Re: Matchless G3L 1941
What year is the Neil book Les?
Why not look at the 1941 Contract no. C1050 parts list Note it list Bowden also Amal levers.
Why not look at the 1941 Contract no. C1050 parts list Note it list Bowden also Amal levers.
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Re: Matchless G3L 1941
Certainly more logical than it referring to which h/bar levers were fitted which I've always thought would be pretty obvious.les ward wrote: F W Neill states in Matchless Motorcycles chapter VI page 106 " Engines with B included in the engine number indicate a plain bush, the latest type".
If the 'B' refers to a plain timing side bush it does support the belief that the 'R' stamp indicates that the engine has the alternative of a roller bearing.
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Re: Matchless G3L 1941
The WD bikes had a plain bush, so no need to stamp B to tell about that. Did the bike year the Neils book refers to not have a plain bush, so there was a need. Note we are referring to a WD bike with a B stamped. Perhaps factory records may show if a bike had any thing non std fitted.les ward wrote:Re the B stamping, F W Neill states in Matchless Motorcycles chapter VI page 106 " Engines with B included in the engine number indicate a plain bush, the latest type".
Makes more sense than Bowden cables.
Thanks to Barry Robinson (Hampshire) for the info.