g15 cs ?

Information relating to the Matchless G15 or AJS Model 33 750cc twin. This also includes the G15 Mk II and the G15/45
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g15 cs ?

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hi , would any kind person have any photos of a correct g15cs mk2 (1965) , id like to compare to a bike i may buy and would like to be sure its correct etc .
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All good stuff Rob, however it doesn't show any G15 CS models.
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ajscomboman wrote:All good stuff Rob, however it doesn't show any G15 CS models.
They were a bit mean with literature late 60's Rob, its in this one. http://archives.jampot.dk/promotional/S ... _flyer.pdf
There's also a 1966 G15CS flyer in the archives. PLus USA versions. ( I think ) not checked.
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Rob Harknett wrote:
ajscomboman wrote:All good stuff Rob, however it doesn't show any G15 CS models.
They were a bit mean with literature late 60's Rob, its in this one. http://archives.jampot.dk/promotional/S ... _flyer.pdf
There's also a 1966 G15CS flyer in the archives. PLus USA versions. ( I think ) not checked.
They certainly were a tight company, but no the CS isn't in the flyer either.
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ajscomboman wrote:
Rob Harknett wrote:
ajscomboman wrote:All good stuff Rob, however it doesn't show any G15 CS models.
They were a bit mean with literature late 60's Rob, its in this one. http://archives.jampot.dk/promotional/S ... _flyer.pdf
There's also a 1966 G15CS flyer in the archives. PLus USA versions. ( I think ) not checked.
They certainly were a tight company, but no the CS isn't in the flyer either.
Opps its G45 CS
I think I discovered why no 65 G15 CS Rob Glass guide says April 1967 G15CS introduced, Oct 1967 G15 CS discontinued.
USA versions.
http://archives.jampot.dk/promotional/S ... eaflet.pdf
http://archives.jampot.dk/promotional/S ... ochure.pdf
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Oups ! The sale leaflet states " The famous Teledraulic forks..."
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JEAN-NOEL wrote:Oups ! The sale leaflet states " The famous Teledraulic forks..."
But they do not claim they are there's Jean-Noel
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JEAN-NOEL wrote:Oups ! The sale leaflet states " The famous Teledraulic forks..."
And that's correct in this case even if sliders are Norton Roadholder items. For 1964-65 (and maybe first half of 1966) the fork internals were adopted from the G80CS. Thus the G15CS sported Roadholder forks with Teledraulic internals and special external springs. The reason for this was that Teledraulic forks offer superior two-way damping, which the Roadholder doesn't. For scrambling use the 1965 spec is clearly better than the 1967 spec.

However, by 1967 the G15CS had lost its competitive edge and was soon to be replaced by the P11 (which was fitted with "true" Teledraulic forks). N-V-Matchless made the G15CS into a street scrambler - there was no need for costly fork internals anymore.

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andy johnson wrote:hi , would any kind person have any photos of a correct g15cs mk2 (1965) , id like to compare to a bike i may buy and would like to be sure its correct etc .
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I wonder if the OP took a reading off the motor stamping? Early G15P/Mk2 were stamped like this. The initial batches of G15 were all scramblers starting Sept. 1963, and only a few engines were diverted to create the G15 roadster early 1964, hence the additional stamping of the engine. I doubt this kind of stamping was in practice by 1965, maybe it's a 1964 model first registered in '65. The OP should take a reading of the frame number and have that number verified by the club's factory records. I bet we are talking of an early (1964) G15Mk2 here, unless a previous owner has swapped the frame.

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